On Fri, Mar 19, 2021 at 2:21 PM Jed Brown <[email protected]> wrote:

Matthew Knepley <[email protected]> writes:

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Notice how the permutations are contained within the vertices {0, ..., 8}, edges {9, ..., 24}, and cells {25, ..., 32}. I would like to get rid of that restriction, but you've said it would have significant non-local consequences so I haven't tried.

Yes, that is not a good idea, even in theory. It wrecks the nice contiguity we use for topological operations.

As Lawrence points out, this need not affect your smoother because dof permutations can break this stratification. It has been that way for a decade.

I only want to break dof stratification, not point stratification. The points produced by the stratified RCM are okay (at least as Lawrence described it; not sure how it's done in DMPlexGetOrdering, but can't be anything hard).

What code needs to be written to get unstratified RCM-like dofs? Lawrence evidently has this code in Firedrake, but I want it in DMPlex, tested and probably done by default because most users would benefit from it. I could swear you said it would break some other assumptions and thus not everything would work, but perhaps we weren't talking about the same thing.

It is possible that I misunderstood what you were asking for. What Section requires for everything to work is that dofs follow the point ordering. The point ordering can be anything we want since we can use a permutation from the mesh point ordering. However, some stuff depends on all dofs associated with a point being contiguous. Not everything does, since I wrote something for LibMesh which allows them to order in a field major way, instead of point major, but it is probably not possible to individually permute unknowns. Usually, this is not what we want anyway I would assume. Thanks, Matt -- What most experimenters take for granted before they begin their experiments is infinitely more interesting than any results to which their experiments lead. -- Norbert Wiener https://www.cse.buffalo.edu/~knepley/ <http://www.cse.buffalo.edu/~knepley/>