PETSc / GAMG user counts
Do we have any data with respect to the number of PETSc users? Better yet number of GAMG users? Mark
Mark Adams <[email protected]> writes:
Do we have any data with respect to the number of PETSc users? Better yet number of GAMG users?
Mailing list statistics, downstream software packages, papers, and commits. We don't spy on users, so just measure products that are made public.
Where is this list of (known) apps? Thanks, On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 6:09 PM, Jed Brown <[email protected]> wrote:
Mark Adams <[email protected]> writes:
Do we have any data with respect to the number of PETSc users? Better yet number of GAMG users?
Mailing list statistics, downstream software packages, papers, and commits.
We don't spy on users, so just measure products that are made public.
On Jul 15, 2015, at 6:53 PM, Mark Adams <[email protected]> wrote:
Where is this list of (known) apps?
http://www.mcs.anl.gov/petsc/publications/index.html but we don't keep it up to date anymore because it is a manual process to find new publications and add their bibtex entries. Thus we mostly just point to google scholar for recent stuff. Verifying someone uses a particular part of PETSc (like GAMG) is difficult because you need to locate their publication and see if they mention it in the text (which often they will not do) or if they sent some email and mentioned using it. I've played with the idea of PETSc programs automatically sending back what solvers they use but for some reason some PETSc developers get paranoid about collecting this kind of information :-). Just count the number of email threads that have GAMG in the text and give that number to David Brown :-) Barry
Thanks,
On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 6:09 PM, Jed Brown <[email protected]> wrote: Mark Adams <[email protected]> writes:
Do we have any data with respect to the number of PETSc users? Better yet number of GAMG users?
Mailing list statistics, downstream software packages, papers, and commits.
We don't spy on users, so just measure products that are made public.
Maybe relevant pubs/bibtex could be added alongside the PETSc ones on the PETSc webpage to help this? (Shame on me, but is there a relevant GAMG publication?) It doesn't help with the disingenuous researcher not willing to go the extra step of proper citation, but would certainly help someone like me that wants to do right. E.g. in this case, I would specifically cite GAMG as well as PETSc. On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 8:32 PM, Barry Smith <[email protected]> wrote:
On Jul 15, 2015, at 6:53 PM, Mark Adams <[email protected]> wrote:
Where is this list of (known) apps?
http://www.mcs.anl.gov/petsc/publications/index.html
but we don't keep it up to date anymore because it is a manual process to find new publications and add their bibtex entries. Thus we mostly just point to google scholar for recent stuff.
Verifying someone uses a particular part of PETSc (like GAMG) is difficult because you need to locate their publication and see if they mention it in the text (which often they will not do) or if they sent some email and mentioned using it. I've played with the idea of PETSc programs automatically sending back what solvers they use but for some reason some PETSc developers get paranoid about collecting this kind of information :-).
Just count the number of email threads that have GAMG in the text and give that number to David Brown :-)
Barry
Thanks,
On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 6:09 PM, Jed Brown <[email protected]> wrote: Mark Adams <[email protected]> writes:
Do we have any data with respect to the number of PETSc users? Better yet number of GAMG users?
Mailing list statistics, downstream software packages, papers, and commits.
We don't spy on users, so just measure products that are made public.
On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 9:23 PM, Paul T. Bauman <[email protected]> wrote:
(Shame on me, but is there a relevant GAMG publication?)
Arg, this came off bad, sorry. I meant, is there a particular publication for which GAMG should be cited?
On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 8:25 PM, Paul T. Bauman <[email protected]> wrote:
On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 9:23 PM, Paul T. Bauman <[email protected]> wrote:
(Shame on me, but is there a relevant GAMG publication?)
Arg, this came off bad, sorry. I meant, is there a particular publication for which GAMG should be cited?
Yes, in fact that publication (whichever one it is) should be loaded by PetscCite() when GAMG is used. Mark, this is homework :) Matt -- What most experimenters take for granted before they begin their experiments is infinitely more interesting than any results to which their experiments lead. -- Norbert Wiener
understood, On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 9:25 PM, Paul T. Bauman <[email protected]> wrote:
On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 9:23 PM, Paul T. Bauman <[email protected]> wrote:
(Shame on me, but is there a relevant GAMG publication?)
Arg, this came off bad, sorry. I meant, is there a particular publication for which GAMG should be cited?
On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 9:23 PM, Paul T. Bauman <[email protected]> wrote:
Maybe relevant pubs/bibtex could be added alongside the PETSc ones on the PETSc webpage to help this? (Shame on me, but is there a relevant GAMG publication?) It doesn't help with the disingenuous researcher not willing to go the extra step of proper citation, but would certainly help someone like me that wants to do right. E.g. in this case, I would specifically cite GAMG as well as PETSc.
I am writing one today as a matter of fact, with Peter, Toby and Garth. I will need to remember to get this into the web page when it is accepted.
On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 8:32 PM, Barry Smith <[email protected]> wrote:
On Jul 15, 2015, at 6:53 PM, Mark Adams <[email protected]> wrote:
Where is this list of (known) apps?
http://www.mcs.anl.gov/petsc/publications/index.html
but we don't keep it up to date anymore because it is a manual process to find new publications and add their bibtex entries. Thus we mostly just point to google scholar for recent stuff.
Verifying someone uses a particular part of PETSc (like GAMG) is difficult because you need to locate their publication and see if they mention it in the text (which often they will not do) or if they sent some email and mentioned using it. I've played with the idea of PETSc programs automatically sending back what solvers they use but for some reason some PETSc developers get paranoid about collecting this kind of information :-).
Just count the number of email threads that have GAMG in the text and give that number to David Brown :-)
Barry
Thanks,
On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 6:09 PM, Jed Brown <[email protected]> wrote: Mark Adams <[email protected]> writes:
Do we have any data with respect to the number of PETSc users? Better yet number of GAMG users?
Mailing list statistics, downstream software packages, papers, and commits.
We don't spy on users, so just measure products that are made public.
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