How do we want to proceed? Phil brings up some very valid points. Begin forwarded message:

From: "Rash, Philip C." <[email protected]> Subject: FW: Recommended Location of Speed Bumps Date: October 27, 2011 11:34:12 AM CDT To: "Stickels, Judith K." <[email protected]> Cc: "Clarke, Charles J." <[email protected]>, "Dely, Gregory" <[email protected]>, "Russell, Edward F." <[email protected]>, "Gradle, Thomas A." <[email protected]>, "Rada, Sylvia M." <[email protected]>, "Rash, Philip C." <[email protected]>, "Schumann, Craig" <[email protected]>, "Sullivan, Casey J." <[email protected]>

Hi Judy,

Your facility parking area as you know is not within the Lab’s operations or security control for traffic safety.

However, I am not in favor of speed bumps here at the Laboratory.

While they will slow cars down, if not constructed properly, you could have issues with car damage.

During snow removal operations, they will likely be damaged. I would consult with your snow removal company. They do use smaller equipment. The Laboratory uses much larger equipment.

I also suggest that the speed bumps will be tripping hazards for personnel walking through the parking lot. Why not just ask your employees to drive slow in the parking lot.

Perhaps if it is such a big problem, perhaps, the lanes in the lot should be shortened and dead-ended so the distance is not very long and this would eliminate people driving through. I do not know if this is really a good idea. It would likely make the people that drive careful mad.

As for your locations, if you put them in, it would seem OK at the east entrance for one lane but not the North lane. In addition, the speed bump there would positively impact the storm water control problem at the east end of your parking lot where cars drive off of Northgate road into your parking lot. As for at the west end of the lanes, the cars are already slowing down at the intersection. Common sense and standard vehicle operation should be in use so a bump at the end will not help those that need help. Perhaps, they should be in the mid point of the lanes , so cars cannot get going beyond the standard 10 MPH speed limit in parking lots before having to slow down. As for the main entrance lane, that is already a short distance. If they are speeding, they will just speed up between bumps.

Perhaps a peer review group should stand outside and document the instances where speeding in the parking lot is an issue and report this info to you.

Just some thoughts.

Phil

From: Judy Stickels [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2011 11:08 AM To: Rash, Philip C. Cc: Jim Feigl; Papka, Michael Subject: Recommended Location of Speed Bumps

Hi Phil,

We would appreciate your feedback regarding number and location of speed bumps for our B240 east parking lot. There are 6 locations that have been proposed (circled in red). Would you recommend more/less? Would you recommend relocation of any of these -- maybe 20-30' into aisle? These are all main entry points. Some of the issues have been: driving too fast through the aisles not looking at crossover of main drive not slowing down at loading dock and or pedestrian walkway

Before we move ahead, we'd like your expert opinion. Thanks!

--Judy

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Judy Stickels Manager, TCS Building Operations MCS/240, Rm. 3142 Argonne National Laboratory 9700 South Cass Avenue Argonne, IL 60439 630-252-3369 (voice) [email protected]

Judy Stickels Manager, TCS Building Operations MCS/240, Rm. 3142 Argonne National Laboratory 9700 South Cass Avenue Argonne, IL 60439 630-252-3369 (voice) [email protected]