These numbers look better. 10 roll vs. 10,000 roll. Corby Schmitz Sent from my mobile office On Sep 25, 2009, at 21:03, "Bair, Raymond A." <[email protected]> wrote:
CORRECTION >>>>
We have FS300 flooring. (Unless it got changed after the attached emails.)
Ultimate load: 5000 lbs Concentrated load: 1500 lbs Impact load: 150 lbs Rolling load 10 pass: 1250 lbs Rolling Load 10,000 pass: 1000 lbs
Ray
On 9/25/09 4:40 PM, "Craig Stacey" <[email protected]> wrote:
On Sep 25, 2009, at 4:01 PM, John Valdes wrote:
One potential issue with this that occurred to me this morning: is the floor just inside the SSF dock doors raised too, or are the tiles in that area resting on concrete (or specially reinforced to handle a greater load)?
It's the same raised floor as over the rest of the room.
I ask because I could imaging that rolling a heavy rack off a pallet down a ramp onto the raised floor might put a greater load on the raised floor than simply wheeling a rack across it, so if we're going to plan on unloading pallets inside the SSF, we should verify that the floor can handle the load. I'm sure it can (we unloaded pallets in the BMR, although its floor was only 1ft high), but someone who knows better than I should probably make sure this will be OK.
The specs on the floor -- I believe we went with the FS500 tiles:
Ultimate load: 7000 lbs Concentrated load: 2500 lbs Impact load: 200 lbs Rolling load 10 pass: 1800 lbs Rolling Load 10,000 pass: 2000 lbs
(I don't know what the 10 pass vs. 10,000 pass means).
John
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The Blue Gene/Q racks are expected to be 3300 pounds. Ray On 9/25/09 9:26 PM, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote:
These numbers look better. 10 roll vs. 10,000 roll.
Corby Schmitz Sent from my mobile office
On Sep 25, 2009, at 21:03, "Bair, Raymond A." <[email protected]> wrote:
CORRECTION >>>>
We have FS300 flooring. (Unless it got changed after the attached emails.)
Ultimate load: 5000 lbs Concentrated load: 1500 lbs Impact load: 150 lbs Rolling load 10 pass: 1250 lbs Rolling Load 10,000 pass: 1000 lbs
Ray
On 9/25/09 4:40 PM, "Craig Stacey" <[email protected]> wrote:
On Sep 25, 2009, at 4:01 PM, John Valdes wrote:
One potential issue with this that occurred to me this morning: is the floor just inside the SSF dock doors raised too, or are the tiles in that area resting on concrete (or specially reinforced to handle a greater load)?
It's the same raised floor as over the rest of the room.
I ask because I could imaging that rolling a heavy rack off a pallet down a ramp onto the raised floor might put a greater load on the raised floor than simply wheeling a rack across it, so if we're going to plan on unloading pallets inside the SSF, we should verify that the floor can handle the load. I'm sure it can (we unloaded pallets in the BMR, although its floor was only 1ft high), but someone who knows better than I should probably make sure this will be OK.
The specs on the floor -- I believe we went with the FS500 tiles:
Ultimate load: 7000 lbs Concentrated load: 2500 lbs Impact load: 200 lbs Rolling load 10 pass: 1800 lbs Rolling Load 10,000 pass: 2000 lbs
(I don't know what the 10 pass vs. 10,000 pass means).
John
== Craig
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That includes the water cooling system, right? Dose the system come charged, or so they add fluids at install? Corby Schmitz Sent from my mobile office On Sep 25, 2009, at 21:53, "Bair, Raymond A." <[email protected]> wrote:
The Blue Gene/Q racks are expected to be 3300 pounds.
Ray
On 9/25/09 9:26 PM, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote:
These numbers look better. 10 roll vs. 10,000 roll.
Corby Schmitz Sent from my mobile office
On Sep 25, 2009, at 21:03, "Bair, Raymond A." <[email protected]> wrote:
CORRECTION >>>>
We have FS300 flooring. (Unless it got changed after the attached emails.)
Ultimate load: 5000 lbs Concentrated load: 1500 lbs Impact load: 150 lbs Rolling load 10 pass: 1250 lbs Rolling Load 10,000 pass: 1000 lbs
Ray
On 9/25/09 4:40 PM, "Craig Stacey" <[email protected]> wrote:
On Sep 25, 2009, at 4:01 PM, John Valdes wrote:
One potential issue with this that occurred to me this morning: is the floor just inside the SSF dock doors raised too, or are the tiles in that area resting on concrete (or specially reinforced to handle a greater load)?
It's the same raised floor as over the rest of the room.
I ask because I could imaging that rolling a heavy rack off a pallet down a ramp onto the raised floor might put a greater load on the raised floor than simply wheeling a rack across it, so if we're going to plan on unloading pallets inside the SSF, we should verify that the floor can handle the load. I'm sure it can (we unloaded pallets in the BMR, although its floor was only 1ft high), but someone who knows better than I should probably make sure this will be OK.
The specs on the floor -- I believe we went with the FS500 tiles:
Ultimate load: 7000 lbs Concentrated load: 2500 lbs Impact load: 200 lbs Rolling load 10 pass: 1800 lbs Rolling Load 10,000 pass: 2000 lbs
(I don't know what the 10 pass vs. 10,000 pass means).
John
== Craig
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For the purpose of the floor, I think 3300lb can be divided by 4 to get 825 lbs/wheel as the concentrated load when, in place. Gary -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bair, Raymond A. Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 9:54 PM To: [email protected]; Bair, Raymond A. Cc: [email protected] Subject: Re: [topg-ssf] SSF doors The Blue Gene/Q racks are expected to be 3300 pounds. Ray On 9/25/09 9:26 PM, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote:
These numbers look better. 10 roll vs. 10,000 roll.
Corby Schmitz Sent from my mobile office
On Sep 25, 2009, at 21:03, "Bair, Raymond A." <[email protected]> wrote:
CORRECTION >>>>
We have FS300 flooring. (Unless it got changed after the attached emails.)
Ultimate load: 5000 lbs Concentrated load: 1500 lbs Impact load: 150 lbs Rolling load 10 pass: 1250 lbs Rolling Load 10,000 pass: 1000 lbs
Ray
On 9/25/09 4:40 PM, "Craig Stacey" <[email protected]> wrote:
On Sep 25, 2009, at 4:01 PM, John Valdes wrote:
One potential issue with this that occurred to me this morning: is the floor just inside the SSF dock doors raised too, or are the tiles in that area resting on concrete (or specially reinforced to handle a greater load)?
It's the same raised floor as over the rest of the room.
I ask because I could imaging that rolling a heavy rack off a pallet down a ramp onto the raised floor might put a greater load on the raised floor than simply wheeling a rack across it, so if we're going to plan on unloading pallets inside the SSF, we should verify that the floor can handle the load. I'm sure it can (we unloaded pallets in the BMR, although its floor was only 1ft high), but someone who knows better than I should probably make sure this will be OK.
The specs on the floor -- I believe we went with the FS500 tiles:
Ultimate load: 7000 lbs Concentrated load: 2500 lbs Impact load: 200 lbs Rolling load 10 pass: 1800 lbs Rolling Load 10,000 pass: 2000 lbs
(I don't know what the 10 pass vs. 10,000 pass means).
John
== Craig
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Right, but they won't all sit on one tile. On Sep 28, 2009, at 8:43 AM, Schlesselman, Clark Gary wrote:
For the purpose of the floor, I think 3300lb can be divided by 4 to get 825 lbs/wheel as
the concentrated load when, in place.
Gary
-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:topg-ssf- [email protected]] On Behalf Of Bair, Raymond A. Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 9:54 PM To: [email protected]; Bair, Raymond A. Cc: [email protected] Subject: Re: [topg-ssf] SSF doors
The Blue Gene/Q racks are expected to be 3300 pounds.
Ray
On 9/25/09 9:26 PM, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote:
These numbers look better. 10 roll vs. 10,000 roll.
Corby Schmitz Sent from my mobile office
On Sep 25, 2009, at 21:03, "Bair, Raymond A." <[email protected]> wrote:
CORRECTION >>>>
We have FS300 flooring. (Unless it got changed after the attached emails.)
Ultimate load: 5000 lbs Concentrated load: 1500 lbs Impact load: 150 lbs Rolling load 10 pass: 1250 lbs Rolling Load 10,000 pass: 1000 lbs
Ray
On 9/25/09 4:40 PM, "Craig Stacey" <[email protected]> wrote:
On Sep 25, 2009, at 4:01 PM, John Valdes wrote:
One potential issue with this that occurred to me this morning: is the floor just inside the SSF dock doors raised too, or are the tiles in that area resting on concrete (or specially reinforced to handle a greater load)?
It's the same raised floor as over the rest of the room.
I ask because I could imaging that rolling a heavy rack off a pallet down a ramp onto the raised floor might put a greater load on the raised floor than simply wheeling a rack across it, so if we're going to plan on unloading pallets inside the SSF, we should verify that the floor can handle the load. I'm sure it can (we unloaded pallets in the BMR, although its floor was only 1ft high), but someone who knows better than I should probably make sure this will be OK.
The specs on the floor -- I believe we went with the FS500 tiles:
Ultimate load: 7000 lbs Concentrated load: 2500 lbs Impact load: 200 lbs Rolling load 10 pass: 1800 lbs Rolling Load 10,000 pass: 2000 lbs
(I don't know what the 10 pass vs. 10,000 pass means).
John
== Craig
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== Craig
The same probably applies to rolling loads. The weight of the rack is distributed (almost evenly) during the movement process. -corby On Sep 28, 2009, at 10:46 AM, Craig Stacey wrote:
Right, but they won't all sit on one tile. On Sep 28, 2009, at 8:43 AM, Schlesselman, Clark Gary wrote:
For the purpose of the floor, I think 3300lb can be divided by 4 to get 825 lbs/wheel as
the concentrated load when, in place.
Gary
-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected] ] On Behalf Of Bair, Raymond A. Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 9:54 PM To: [email protected]; Bair, Raymond A. Cc: [email protected] Subject: Re: [topg-ssf] SSF doors
The Blue Gene/Q racks are expected to be 3300 pounds.
Ray
On 9/25/09 9:26 PM, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote:
These numbers look better. 10 roll vs. 10,000 roll.
Corby Schmitz Sent from my mobile office
On Sep 25, 2009, at 21:03, "Bair, Raymond A." <[email protected]> wrote:
CORRECTION >>>>
We have FS300 flooring. (Unless it got changed after the attached emails.)
Ultimate load: 5000 lbs Concentrated load: 1500 lbs Impact load: 150 lbs Rolling load 10 pass: 1250 lbs Rolling Load 10,000 pass: 1000 lbs
Ray
On 9/25/09 4:40 PM, "Craig Stacey" <[email protected]> wrote:
On Sep 25, 2009, at 4:01 PM, John Valdes wrote:
One potential issue with this that occurred to me this morning: is the floor just inside the SSF dock doors raised too, or are the tiles in that area resting on concrete (or specially reinforced to handle a greater load)?
It's the same raised floor as over the rest of the room.
I ask because I could imaging that rolling a heavy rack off a pallet down a ramp onto the raised floor might put a greater load on the raised floor than simply wheeling a rack across it, so if we're going to plan on unloading pallets inside the SSF, we should verify that the floor can handle the load. I'm sure it can (we unloaded pallets in the BMR, although its floor was only 1ft high), but someone who knows better than I should probably make sure this will be OK.
The specs on the floor -- I believe we went with the FS500 tiles:
Ultimate load: 7000 lbs Concentrated load: 2500 lbs Impact load: 200 lbs Rolling load 10 pass: 1800 lbs Rolling Load 10,000 pass: 2000 lbs
(I don't know what the 10 pass vs. 10,000 pass means).
John
== Craig
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== Craig
I think the rule is that for wheeled racks, assume only 3 are touching at any one time. -Pete On Sep 28, 2009, at 10:46 AM, Schmitz Corby wrote:
The same probably applies to rolling loads. The weight of the rack is distributed (almost evenly) during the movement process.
-corby
On Sep 28, 2009, at 10:46 AM, Craig Stacey wrote:
Right, but they won't all sit on one tile. On Sep 28, 2009, at 8:43 AM, Schlesselman, Clark Gary wrote:
For the purpose of the floor, I think 3300lb can be divided by 4 to get 825 lbs/wheel as
the concentrated load when, in place.
Gary
-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected] ] On Behalf Of Bair, Raymond A. Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 9:54 PM To: [email protected]; Bair, Raymond A. Cc: [email protected] Subject: Re: [topg-ssf] SSF doors
The Blue Gene/Q racks are expected to be 3300 pounds.
Ray
On 9/25/09 9:26 PM, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote:
These numbers look better. 10 roll vs. 10,000 roll.
Corby Schmitz Sent from my mobile office
On Sep 25, 2009, at 21:03, "Bair, Raymond A." <[email protected]> wrote:
CORRECTION >>>>
We have FS300 flooring. (Unless it got changed after the attached emails.)
Ultimate load: 5000 lbs Concentrated load: 1500 lbs Impact load: 150 lbs Rolling load 10 pass: 1250 lbs Rolling Load 10,000 pass: 1000 lbs
Ray
On 9/25/09 4:40 PM, "Craig Stacey" <[email protected]> wrote:
On Sep 25, 2009, at 4:01 PM, John Valdes wrote:
One potential issue with this that occurred to me this morning: is the floor just inside the SSF dock doors raised too, or are the tiles in that area resting on concrete (or specially reinforced to handle a greater load)?
It's the same raised floor as over the rest of the room.
I ask because I could imaging that rolling a heavy rack off a pallet down a ramp onto the raised floor might put a greater load on the raised floor than simply wheeling a rack across it, so if we're going to plan on unloading pallets inside the SSF, we should verify that the floor can handle the load. I'm sure it can (we unloaded pallets in the BMR, although its floor was only 1ft high), but someone who knows better than I should probably make sure this will be OK.
The specs on the floor -- I believe we went with the FS500 tiles:
Ultimate load: 7000 lbs Concentrated load: 2500 lbs Impact load: 200 lbs Rolling load 10 pass: 1800 lbs Rolling Load 10,000 pass: 2000 lbs
(I don't know what the 10 pass vs. 10,000 pass means).
John
== Craig
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