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Fwd: [Cis-staff] Cloud meeting???
by Charlie Catlett 14 Apr '09

14 Apr '09

Aimed at business apps. Poorly coordinated even within CIS, and I'll just leave it at that. CeC (from mobile) Begin forwarded message: > From: Scott Pinkerton <pinkerton(a)anl.gov> > Date: April 14, 2009 11:09:40 AM MDT > To: Charlie Catlett <catlett(a)anl.gov>, CIS Catlett Staff <cis-staff(a)anl.gov > > > Subject: Re: [Cis-staff] Cloud meeting??? > > Charlie, > > Back in early March – we traded some e-mails between ourselves, Ferm > i, and UoC – to get a feel for “what are your organizations doing > with cloud computing”. Jim Dust had recently been talking with Jack > Schmidt (Fermi) about cloud computing while out at Microsoft, and I > had been talking with UoC (NSIT folks). > > So we ended up with a meeting here at ANL (today) - UoC was able to > attend, no one from Fermi was able to come on site for the meeting. > As such, we ended up with a fairly casual brainstorming session on > how the central IT groups (NSIT and CIS) could and should help move > along cloud computing initiatives. > > We were trying to brainstorm on areas where we could work together, > or learn from other peoples experiences, etc. Get smarter on how the > organizations were looking at low hanging fruit (easy things to move > to the cloud), risk areas for going to the cloud, etc. Figuring out > if there were any areas of collaboration for us – to work together; > basically just trying to get a little bit smarter. > > I will say that UoC did ask for us to not include the CIO’s in the f > irst meeting – if you were coming, then they felt they needed to inv > ite Greg, or Vicki from Fermi. They specifically wanted a meeting to > bounce ideas around before going to the CIO level of discussion. Th > is was sort of a step 0 sort of move. I thought we had talked about > it casually a couple times in staff over the past couple of weeks – > though sorry that would have left you unaware of it. > > Scott > > > On 4/14/09 11:13 AM, "Charlie Catlett" <catlett(a)anl.gov> wrote: > > I'm trying to coordinate on cloud with MCS, alcf, etc. This morning > they heard via fermi about a uc/anl/fnal cloud meeting. Did I miss the > announcement about such a meeting? > > CeC (from mobile) > _______________________________________________ > CIS-staff mailing list > CIS-staff(a)lists.anl.gov > https://lists.anl.gov/mailman/listinfo/cis-staff >

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Clouds in non computational space
by Charlie Catlett 14 Apr '09

14 Apr '09

Two FYI items. 1) I took my Mgmt team and Craig Stacey to Google Chicago last week. We learned current state and future plans for google voice and gmail/ docs. I'm 95% convinced we should phase out lab exchange and zimbra in favor of google services. It's time and they are more than ready. More detail later (knee jerk thoughts?) 2) I've worked with Appirio, a firm that helps companies move to cloud (via goog, amzn, salesforce, etc) to design a 3h symposium on clouds aimed at sysadmins and business apps people. It will be offered to anyone at the lab (fermi and UC welcome) and required for all CIS staff. 9-12 on April 30 and a second playing on may 1. If it is useful we can schedule more sessions. CeC (from mobile)

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UofC-Argonne-Fermi cloud meeting today
by Ian Foster 14 Apr '09

14 Apr '09

Hi, We hear via friends at Fermi that there is a joint UofC-Argonne-Fermi cloud computing meeting today. In case anyone is interested, it is in building 201, room 274. It is a bit sad that we keep getting news about Argonne activities in this space from people outside the lab. Ian.

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DOE cloud stuff
by Ian Foster 09 Apr '09

09 Apr '09

Hi, Any update on the Argonne DOE cloud stuff? Ian

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Fwd: Microsoft visit
by Silvia Palomino 31 Mar '09

31 Mar '09

All, Fyi, the visit by Dan Reed and Dennis Gannon is confirmed for May 4-5; the following have been confirmed to participate. Rick Stevens, Pete Beckman, Mike Papka, Charlie Catlett (5/5), Kate Keahey, Mike Wilde, Svetlozar Nestorov, Narayan Desai, Craig Stacey, Mark Hereld, and Tom Uram. More details to follow. Regards, Silvia Begin forwarded message: From: Silvia Palomino <palomino(a)mcs.anl.gov> Date: March 30, 2009 9:26:00 AM CDT To: keahey(a)mcs.anl.gov, wilde(a)mcs.anl.gov, Narayan Desai <desai(a)mcs.anl.gov >, " rross(a)mcs.anl.gov" <rross(a)mcs.anl.gov>, Craig Stacey <stace(a)mcs.anl.gov >, hereld(a)mcs.anl.gov, turam(a)mcs.anl.gov, evtimov(a)cs.uchicago.edu Cc: Silvia Palomino <palomino(a)mcs.anl.gov> Subject: Microsoft visit All, Dan Reed, Director of Scalable/Multicore Systems and Dennis Gannon, Director of Applications for the Cloud Computing Futures Group at Microsoft are planning to visit Argonne on May 4 - 5, 2009. They will bring scientific application demos atop Azure to demo and dissect. Please send me your availability to participate in this visit at your earliest convenience. Thank you. Regards, Silvia ******************* Silvia Palomino Executive Secretary Computing, Environment, and Life Sciences 221/A221 Argonne National Laboratory 9700 S. Cass Avenue Argonne, IL 60439 Phone: 630.252.6188 Fax: 630.252.6333 palomino(a)mcs.anl.gov

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Fwd: AMZN summary
by Charlie Catlett 25 Mar '09

25 Mar '09

Please don't distribute. Outcome of the call I was on yesterday. CeC (from mobile) Begin forwarded message: > From: "Smarr, Larry" <lsmarr(a)soe.ucsd.edu> > Date: March 24, 2009 4:19:55 PM CDT > To: Jim Dolgonas <jdolgonas(a)cenic.org>, Ed Lazowska <lazowska(a)cs.washington.edu > >, Ed Lazowska <lazowska(a)cs.washington.edu>, "Johnson, Kristen" <kristenj(a)soe.ucsd.edu > >, "David J. Hutches" <dhutches(a)soe.ucsd.edu>, Amin Vahdat <vahdat(a)cs.ucsd.edu > >, "Dunne, Brian" <bdunne(a)soe.ucsd.edu>, "DeFanti, Tom" <tdefanti(a)soe.ucsd.edu > >, Tom West <twest(a)nlr.net>, "Harel, Elazar" <eharel(a)ucsd.edu>, > "Orcutt, John" <jorcutt(a)ucsd.edu>, <dave(a)cenic.org>, "Arrott, Matt" <marrott(a)soe.ucsd.edu > >, "Krueger, Ingolf" <ikrueger(a)ucsd.edu>, <catlett(a)anl.gov>, <ronj(a)washington.edu > >, Tim Hunkapiller <tim(a)discoverybio.com>, Terry Gray <gray(a)washington.edu > >, Ed Lazowska <lazowska(a)cs.washington.edu>, > <amy(a)cac.washington.edu>, Jeff Gardner > <gardnerj(a)phys.washington.edu>, Paul Gilna <pgilna(a)soe.ucsd.edu>, > Mark Ellisman <mellisman(a)ucsd.edu> > Subject: RE: AMZN summary > > What a great outcome—thanks to all of you for making this happen! > > > > Ed—I think the easiest use case would be to ask Bob Grossman to do h > is OpenCloud terasort between the cloud and his other sites as Johns > Hopkins, Chicago, and UCSD. He could compare (or not depending on > what Amazon wants Hadoop and Sector) and demonstrate that the Amazon > cloud works as well as standard racks in universities. Given that > Bob won the Supercomputing Bandwidth Challenge last year with this, > it would be a powerful demonstration. Let me know if you would like > me to contact him… > > > > Secondly I suspect we could use Amazon for a CAMERA extension of our > server complex for pre-computes, which are currently constrained to > our CAMERA cluster at UCSD. Ideally, Phil P. could work up a Rocks > “roll over” to the cloud—Phil, what do you think? > > > > Thirdly, we might be able to put up a small CineGrid exchange with > HD and compressed 4k, which could be shown on demand from anywhere > attached at 10G to the cloud. Of course, we would use content that > was university produced like Donna’s thunderstorm visualizations. To > m—what do you think? > > > > Fourthly, we could do backups of DNA array data that Bing Ren is > storing in the Calit2 machine room flowing from his instrument in > the medical school across campus. We might also extend to our Penn > State 454 genome sequencing pipeline. Paul—what do you think? > > > > Just some specific ideas to get us rolling… > > > > From: Jim Dolgonas [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 9:46 PM > To: Ed Lazowska; Ed Lazowska; Johnson, Kristen; David J. Hutches; > Smarr, Larry; Amin Vahdat; Dunne, Brian; DeFanti, Tom; Tom West; > Harel, Elazar; Orcutt, John; dave(a)cenic.org; Arrott, Matt; Krueger, > Ingolf; catlett(a)anl.gov; ronj(a)washington.edu; Tim Hunkapiller; Terry > Gray; Ed Lazowska; amy(a)cac.washington.edu; Jeff Gardner > Subject: Re: AMZN summary > > > > let me add a couple of points here, based in part on the dinner > discussion with Kurt. > > We were talking to the decision makers at Amazon. The guy who said > "is there any reason we shouldn't do this" has the ultimate > authority for deciding whether to proceed. Kurt confirmed this over > dinner. > > Our dinner opened up some add'l possibilities, none that would > interfere with or detract from what was discussed earlier in the > day. These would be more focused on Amazon services for non > research purposes. > > I think the meeting (s) accomplished all that we could have wanted. > > Jim > > > > > > At 07:45 PM 3/23/2009, Ed Lazowska wrote: > > > Here's a very brief summary -- please forward if I missed anyone: > > We met for 2 hours at UW and 1 hour at AMZN. > > Deepak Singh will send me a complete list of the AMZN participants > and their roles. I'll pass this along. > > Deepak is the biz dev guy for AWS. He's our AMZN point of contact. > I agreed to be the point of contact for our group. > > Kurt, who organized the meeting, is "Senior Manager" for AWS. > > Werner Vogels is CTO. > > At AMZN, we were joined by Alyssa Henry, the GM for S3. Also her > counterpart who is the GM for EC2. And two networking guys who > seemed extremely sharp. Again, I'll pass along all the names later. > > It really couldn't have gone better. After about an hour at AMZN, > one of their guys said "Look, is there any reason we wouldn't do > this?" That was pretty much the end of the meeting. It's a go. > > AMZN is extremely pragmatic. They are not interested in solving > hypothetical problems. Whenever one of us asked a slightly abstract > question, their response was "Tell us exactly what you're trying to > do, and we'll tell you whether we can do it." > > We agreed that there would be an initial focus on getting the > connectivity working. One thing they noted is that various things > other than backbone charges are lumped into their data movement > prices, so even if we reduce the backbone charges to zero, the costs > won't go to zero. For example, they have multiple datacenters on > each coast on redundant private rings, and they need to amortize > that cost. We agreed that our goals are not "zeroing the cost" but > rather (a) ensuring prodigious *achievable* bandwidth and (b) > reducing the cost as much as possible. > > Clearly we need to do both Seattle and VA. They felt that if we and > they both put some pressure on Level 3, we could probably get the VA > gap closed. But getting Seattle up first makes sense -- that allows > us to get going and to prove some things. > > They want us to describe two "use cases." We need to get hopping on > that. We agreed that one of them would be a "sexy stupid pet > trick" (our famous HD video demo, but done from the cloud). The > other should be some sort of large-scale science use. We need to > figure out what this might be. It's going to be a while before the > OOI is delivering data -- we need something "now." So the ball is > in our court to describe these two "use cases." > > They seem really intent on viewing this as a growth business, and as > a situation where there is a window of opportunity to do something > special (before scientists start using the Google/IBM facility or > the Yahoo facilities or the Open Cloud; before Microsoft gets its > shit together). I tried to make the case for "the business case" > and for "doing it now" and they definitely bought it. > > I punted dinner to head home and do some wash before flying east; > maybe some dinner attendee will have more to report. > > Bottom line: this is *clearly* a go. Couldn't have been a better > session. At this point, it's up to the network engineers, and we > need to describe the use cases.

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Amazon
by Charlie Catlett 24 Mar '09

24 Mar '09

Punchline - a 10Gb/s connection from NLR/CENIC to Amazon Web Services data center(s) is probably going to happen in the summer timeframe. I was in a meeting yesterday organized by Amazon Web Services folks, Ed Lazowska and Ron Johnson at UWash, and Larry Smarr at UCSD. Tom West from NLR was also on the line. It looks like Amazon is going to move forward in connecting their web services data center in Washington (and probably Virginia as well) in the next few months. Primarily this is to get 10 Gb/s access for R&D but also it is likely to drop the I/O pricing (not to zero, but some) for AWS (EC2, S3, etc.) I'm working with Ron and Steve Cotter (director of ESnet) to figure out whether an ESnet direct connect makes sense or a peering with NLR. In the end we want 10 Gb/s access, so I'm expecting we will want ESnet to connect direct to avoid too much sharing. CeC

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Fwd: show and tell
by Rick Stevens 24 Mar '09

24 Mar '09

FYI Begin forwarded message: > From: Rick Stevens <stevens(a)anl.gov> > Date: March 24, 2009 9:53:57 AM CDT > To: "Dan Reed (MSR)" <Daniel.Reed(a)microsoft.com> > Cc: Charlie Catlett <catlett(a)anl.gov>, Dennis Gannon <Dennis.Gannon(a)microsoft.com > >, Michele Klamer <mklamer(a)microsoft.com>, Silvia Palomino <palomino(a)mcs.anl.gov > > > Subject: Re: show and tell > > Dan, > > Silvia Palomino in my office can coordinate all the relevant folks, > dates, logistics etc. > > --rick > > > On Mar 23, 2009, at 7:17 PM, Dan Reed (MSR) wrote: > >> Dennis and I are working on some times to come visit in the next >> 2-3 weeks. We will bring scientific application demos atop Azure >> to demo and dissect. >> >> With whom should Michele sync to schedule? >> >> Dan >

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Testing (Azure)
by Ian Foster 18 Mar '09

18 Mar '09

I have a student at U.Chicago who wants a MS project, I have asked him to give Azure a try. Ian.

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Fwd: Amazon/UCSD/UW meeting
by Rick Stevens 16 Mar '09

16 Mar '09

FYI Larry is trying to get a fast link into Amazon cloud infrastructure.. -Rick Begin forwarded message: > From: Ed Lazowska <lazowska(a)cs.washington.edu> > Date: March 16, 2009 12:50:31 PM CDT > To: "'Messersmith, Kurt'" <kurtme(a)amazon.com>, "Smarr, Larry" <lsmarr(a)soe.ucsd.edu > > > Cc: "Liu, Qian" <qianliu(a)soe.ucsd.edu>, "Bracho, Hector" <hbracho(a)ucsd.edu > >, "Johnson, Kristen" <kristenj(a)soe.ucsd.edu>, "Singh, Deepak" <deesingh(a)amazon.com > >, Ed Lazowska <lazowska(a)cs.washington.edu>, Fred Videon <fred(a)cs.washington.edu > >, "Messersmith, Kurt" <kurtme(a)amazon.com>, "DeFanti, Tom" <tdefanti(a)soe.ucsd.edu > >, Amin Vahdat <vahdat(a)cs.ucsd.edu>, "Arrott, Matt" <marrott(a)soe.ucsd.edu > >, "Krueger, Ingolf" <ikrueger(a)ucsd.edu>, "David J. Hutches" <dhutches(a)soe.ucsd.edu > >, Philip Papadopoulos <phil(a)sdsc.edu>, "Dunne, Brian" <bdunne(a)soe.ucsd.edu > >, "Gilna, Paul" <pgilna(a)soe.ucsd.edu>, "Harel, Elazar" <eharel(a)ucsd.edu > >, Jim Dolgonas <jdolgonas(a)cenic.org>, "ronj(a)washington.edu" <ronj(a)washington.edu > >, Ed Lazowska <lazowska(a)cs.washington.edu>, "Bracho, Hector" <hbracho(a)ucsd.edu > >, "Liu, Qian" <qianliu(a)soe.ucsd.edu>, Tim Hunkapiller <tim(a)discoverybio.com > >, "catlett(a)anl.gov" <catlett(a)anl.gov>, "stevens(a)ci.uchicago.edu" <stevens(a)ci.uchicago.edu > >, "Sheehan, Jerry" <jerry(a)ucsd.edu>, "Rao, Ramesh" > <rrao(a)soe.ucsd.edu>, "Johnson, Kristen" <kristenj(a)soe.ucsd.edu>, "kmiller(a)amazon.com > " <kmiller(a)amazon.com>, "skjames(a)amazon.com" <skjames(a)amazon.com>, > Terry Gray <gray(a)washington.edu> > Subject: Amazon/UCSD/UW meeting > > Please pass this along to anyone I may have missed -- I don't have a > scorecard. > > The teleconference will begin at noon PDT on Monday March 23. > > On the Seattle end, it will be held in room 305 of the Paul G. Allen > Center for Computer Science & Engineering. > > We have this room, and a separate room (503 for the dyslexic among > you, and 624), available until 5 p.m. > > Directions and maps are here: http://www.cs.washington.edu/news/maps.html > . > > If you take an Amzn shuttle, it can drop you off at the building. > If you drive and park on campus, you'll have to pay the goons an > outrageous fee, but I'll give you a sticker that gets you your money > back on the way out. > > From: Messersmith, Kurt [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 10:20 AM > To: Smarr, Larry; Ed Lazowska > Cc: Liu, Qian; Bracho, Hector; Johnson, Kristen; Singh, Deepak > Subject: RE: The Amazon-UCSD meeting on March 23 is ON > > Adding Deepak from AWS to this thread. He will help us run the > agenda on the 23rd. Need assistance with a few items: > 1. Are UW rooms confirmed? One main meeting room with VTC, two > smaller rooms for subsequent business + technical discussions > 2. We need location of rooms to inform shuttle service and > parking options for those traveling by car. Can we get this today? I > need to book shuttle. > 3. Agenda > a. For opening 1 hour general all-hands, I propose that Larry > give an overview and detail the opportunity (Ed and UW team can > contribute). AWS side—would it benefit to have someone from AWS > address the entire group, if so what topic? > 4. Attendee list—can we break out who would attend biz > discussion and who would attend technical after general VTC? > > Thank you. > K. > > From: Smarr, Larry [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 1:35 PM > To: Ed Lazowska; Messersmith, Kurt > Cc: Liu, Qian; Bracho, Hector; Johnson, Kristen > Subject: RE: The Amazon-UCSD meeting on March 23 is ON > > Thanks! > > From: Ed Lazowska [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 1:10 PM > To: Smarr, Larry; Messersmith, Kurt > Cc: Liu, Qian; Bracho, Hector; Johnson, Kristen > Subject: RE: The Amazon-UCSD meeting on March 23 is ON > > Larry, > > Fred Videon here in CSE is working with your guys to make sure that > our facilities are compatible. If so, we'll do it at UW. It won't > be HD but it'll work. I'll let the Amzn guys know once this is > settled. > > From: Smarr, Larry [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 7:14 AM > To: Messersmith, Kurt; Ed Lazowska > Cc: Liu, Qian; Bracho, Hector; Johnson, Kristen > Subject: RE: The Amazon-UCSD meeting on March 23 is ON > > Ed—we need a point person for logistics for this upcoming Amazon > meeting. They need to give the Amazon folks info on parking, rooms, > etc. > > Also, could you e-introduce the vtc tech support person to the > Calit2 guys, Hector and Qian, so they can test out the equipment > before the meeting. > > Thanks! > > From: Messersmith, Kurt [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 1:33 AM > To: Smarr, Larry > Subject: RE: The Amazon-UCSD meeting on March 23 is ON > > Thanks for this. I will look into arranging a shuttle for AWS staff > to go there together. I need details from UW and options for parking > for those that have to drive there. If there is a logistics contact > there on behalf of Ed, I’m good to work with them. > > Thx. > > From: Smarr, Larry [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2009 6:54 PM > To: Messersmith, Kurt; DeFanti, Tom; Amin Vahdat; Arrott, Matt; > Krueger, Ingolf; David J. Hutches; Philip Papadopoulos; Dunne, > Brian; Gilna, Paul; Harel, Elazar; Jim Dolgonas; > ronj(a)washington.edu; Ed Lazowska; Bracho, Hector; Liu, Qian; Tim > Hunkapiller;catlett(a)anl.gov > Cc: stevens(a)ci.uchicago.edu; Sheehan, Jerry; Rao, Ramesh; Johnson, > Kristen; Miller, Kevin; James, Sunil > Subject: RE: The Amazon-UCSD meeting on March 23 is ON > > All—I talked to Kurt over the weekend and everything is on for the > meeting. > > I suggest that the team to fly to UWashington to meet with the > Amazon team should include: > > Elazar Harel > Jim Dolgonas > Amin Vahdat > Ingolf Krueger > Matt Arrott > > Joining them in Seattle will be Ron Johnson, Ed Lazowska, Tim > Hunkapiller and Charlie Catlett > > Kurt has said he will host dinner for those staying over the night > of the 23rd. > > There are two Alaska Air flights up to Seattle from San Diego that > get in by 11am, so the meeting will start at noon and go till 5pm > > The Calit2 joining the discussion by vtc will include: > Larry Smarr > Tom DeFanti > John Orcutt > David Hutches > Brian Dunne > > Hector and Qian will support the vtc at the Calit2 end > > I have asked Ed and Ron to secure a vtc room at the UW end. > > Let me and Kristen know if this works for each of you… > > > From: Smarr, Larry > Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 12:02 PM > To: 'Messersmith, Kurt'; DeFanti, Tom; 'Amin Vahdat'; Arrott, Matt; > Krueger, Ingolf; David J. Hutches; 'Philip Papadopoulos'; Dunne, > Brian; Gilna, Paul; Harel, Elazar; 'Jim Dolgonas'; > ronj(a)washington.edu; 'Ed Lazowska'; Bracho, Hector; Liu, Qian; 'Tim > Hunkapiller';'catlett(a)anl.gov' > Cc: 'stevens(a)ci.uchicago.edu'; Sheehan, Jerry; Rao, Ramesh; Johnson, > Kristen; 'kmiller(a)amazon.com'; 'skjames(a)amazon.com' > Subject: The Amazon-UCSD meeting on March 23 is ON > > Good afternoon everyone—amazingly, almost everyone can either fly to > Seattle or be on a VTC from Cali2@UCSD on the 23rd, so lock it into > your calendars. > > There are two flights from SAN to SEA that get in before noon, so I > suggest starting with a catered lunch at UW in whatever room we end > up choosing because of its VTC facilities. We will not use the > fully uncompressed HD for a variety of reasons, but instead use a > commercial VTC. > > Kurt will organize a group of Amazon folks to come to the meeting. > > Based on responses received so far, following is availability for > the upcoming meeting scheduled for 3/23: > > From UCSD and CENIC: > Amin Vahdat - yes > Ingolf Krueger - yes > David Hutches - yes > Phil Papadopoulos - no > Matt Arrott - yes > Paul Gilna - no > Brian Dunne - yes > Tom DeFanti - yes > Elazar Harel - yes > Jim Dolgonas – yes (possibly from DC) > > From UW: > Ron Johnson - yes > Ed Lazowska - yes > > From Seattle: > Tim Hunkapiller (Calit2 Advisory Board member) - yes > > From Argonne: > Charlie Catlett - yes > > I don’t think we need all the UCSD folks to fly up and I will come > out with a email soon with who I would like to go physically and who > virtually. > > Very exciting! > > Let me know if you have any questions… > > > From: Smarr, Larry > Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 7:02 PM > To: Messersmith, Kurt; DeFanti, Tom; Amin Vahdat; Arrott, Matt; > Krueger, Ingolf; David J. Hutches; 'Philip Papadopoulos'; Dunne, > Brian; Gilna, Paul; Harel, Elazar; Jim Dolgonas; ronj(a)cac.washington.edu > ; Ed Lazowska; Bracho, Hector; Liu, Qian; 'Tim Hunkapiller';catlett(a)anl.gov > Cc: stevens(a)ci.uchicago.edu; Sheehan, Jerry; Rao, Ramesh; Johnson, > Kristen; kmiller(a)amazon.com; skjames(a)amazon.com > Subject: possible amazon road trip March 23 > > I talked to Kurt last week and he said he was going to check to see > if March 23 would work on the Amazon end for a meeting which might > be best done on the UW campus and Calit2, connected by our > uncompressed HD. > > Kurt is now in Europe, but maybe he is on email and can let us know > if this meeting will be possible. > > I think the idea is for Kurt and/or Werner and me to set the context > about establishing a dedicated 10G lightpath into Amazon’s cloud, > linking into Pacific Wave and CENIC and terminating at UCSD, then > have some in depth technical discussions on how this could be done. > The idea is to set up a public/private partnership, like we have > with CineGrid, for experiments on high performance Cloud services. > Hopefully, this will convince the Feds to begin allowing funding in > grants for this sort of service. I was just at DOE and they are > also quite interested in this. > > People who I know are interested in this and might attend would > include: > > From UCSD and CENIC: > Amin Vahdat > Ingolf Krueger > David Hutches > Phil Papadopoulos > Matt Arrott > Paul Gilna > Brian Dunne > Tom DeFanti > Elazar Harel > Jim Dolgonas > > From UW: > Ron Johnson > Ed Lazowska > > From Seattle: > Tim Hunkapiller (Calit2 Advisory Board member) > > From Argonne: > Charlie Catlett > > Can all these people please let Kristen know asap if they can be > available to either fly to DC or use an HD conference at Calit2 on > March 23? > > It may be too late to pull this together, but if only a subset can > meet it will keep the momentum building… > > Hector and Qian—can you check with the UW research channel and see > if they are available on that day and can accommodate this size > group and if the auditorium is free—backup will be lifesize? > > From: Messersmith, Kurt [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 9:34 AM > To: Smarr, Larry > Cc: DeFanti, Tom; Amin Vahdat; Arrott, Matt; Johnson, Kristen > Subject: RE: Thank you, next steps > > Hello again. Hope all is well. We would be very interested in > hosting your team in Seattle and meet with AWS leadership, services > and infrastructure teams. > As for dates, how would some time the last two weeks of March look? > > From: Smarr, Larry [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2009 1:41 PM > To: Messersmith, Kurt > Cc: DeFanti, Tom; Amin Vahdat; Matthew Arrott; Johnson, Kristen > Subject: RE: Thank you, next steps > > Kurt-in spite of our Tiger/Jay Hawk heritage, I was really excited > about the opportunities to collaborate on a high performance, green, > cloud computing testbed covering the west coast of the US and > extensible across the nation and around the world! > > Let us know the dates that best work for your team and we will try > to make something work sooner than later… > > From: Messersmith, Kurt [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 5:18 PM > To: Smarr, Larry > Subject: Thank you, next steps > > It was a pleasure meeting you and your team this week. We > appreciated the tour and enjoyed the initial conversation. I would > like to connect you with our networking/enterprise services team as > I think there are some interesting commonalities in what you are > looking at. > > Let’s start looking at dates to host a UCSD delegation in Seattle. I > imagine Werner will also be sending some follow up. As the AWS > education lead, you can call on me any time. > > Talk to you soon. > K. > > P.S. I read through your web site and noticed your background at U. > Missouri. I’m a Kansas Jayhawk. ;) >

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